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	<title>Comments on: Bad Decisions Mar UFC 86: Rampage Jackson Was Robbed</title>
	<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-417</guid>
		<description>David,

I agree with you; an immediate rematch should be in order. But unfortunately, it sounds like we'll get Chuck v. Forrest (if Chuck beats Rashad Evans, which is definitely not a given). That being said,  I guess they haven't taken a rematch off the table completely. 

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought this fight was screwy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I agree with you; an immediate rematch should be in order. But unfortunately, it sounds like we&#8217;ll get Chuck v. Forrest (if Chuck beats Rashad Evans, which is definitely not a given). That being said,  I guess they haven&#8217;t taken a rematch off the table completely. </p>
<p>Glad to see I&#8217;m not the only one who thought this fight was screwy.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-415</guid>
		<description>I can't believe the judging in the Rampage v Forrest fight either.  It was far closer than they gave it credit for and the result has still puzzled me.

I can't believe one of the judges was stupid enough to give Forrest round 1 after Rampage connected with a vicious punch that dropped him.  How could Griffin have possibly won that round?  That should definitely have been 10-9 Rampage.

I do agree with the judging of the second round as it was clear that Forrest was dominating the round effectively using leg kicks and easily controlling Jackson on the ground, so I agreed that that was 10-8 to Forrest (19-18 overall).

I also gave the third round to Forrest but as Lex said you could also make a convincing case for it to go to Rampage.  It was pretty close and if Forrest had have continued with the gameplan that was working then he could have finished the fight in this round but instead he traded with Rampage.  So, I scored it 10-9 Forrest (29-27 overall).

By the fourth round Rampage was able to outstrike Forrest, landing the more effective combinations and even being able to hit one of his signature powerbombs as a counter to the triangle choke in the same way that he did to Ricardo Arona in Pride, although Forrest was able to defend it better and survive.  Nevertheless, Rampage controlled this round and clearly won it 10-9 (38-37 to Forrest).

I also gave the fifth round to Rampage as he was landing the better combinations in this round, proving that he is a better striker than Forrest.  This was the closest round but I could only see it being awarded to Rampage if not a draw, so by my score it was 47-47 each, just like Melzer had it by the end of the fight.  

The fight was great to watch but it was nowhere near as clearcut a victory for Forrest as the judges implied with their scoring and he did not do enough to take the title for me so until they have a rematch I won't consider Forrest as the true champion.  If Dana has any sense then he will give Rampage an immediate rematch because I don't feel that Griffin has done enough to warrant being the champion and if he does indeed beat Rampage again then this time there will be no controversy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe the judging in the Rampage v Forrest fight either.  It was far closer than they gave it credit for and the result has still puzzled me.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe one of the judges was stupid enough to give Forrest round 1 after Rampage connected with a vicious punch that dropped him.  How could Griffin have possibly won that round?  That should definitely have been 10-9 Rampage.</p>
<p>I do agree with the judging of the second round as it was clear that Forrest was dominating the round effectively using leg kicks and easily controlling Jackson on the ground, so I agreed that that was 10-8 to Forrest (19-18 overall).</p>
<p>I also gave the third round to Forrest but as Lex said you could also make a convincing case for it to go to Rampage.  It was pretty close and if Forrest had have continued with the gameplan that was working then he could have finished the fight in this round but instead he traded with Rampage.  So, I scored it 10-9 Forrest (29-27 overall).</p>
<p>By the fourth round Rampage was able to outstrike Forrest, landing the more effective combinations and even being able to hit one of his signature powerbombs as a counter to the triangle choke in the same way that he did to Ricardo Arona in Pride, although Forrest was able to defend it better and survive.  Nevertheless, Rampage controlled this round and clearly won it 10-9 (38-37 to Forrest).</p>
<p>I also gave the fifth round to Rampage as he was landing the better combinations in this round, proving that he is a better striker than Forrest.  This was the closest round but I could only see it being awarded to Rampage if not a draw, so by my score it was 47-47 each, just like Melzer had it by the end of the fight.  </p>
<p>The fight was great to watch but it was nowhere near as clearcut a victory for Forrest as the judges implied with their scoring and he did not do enough to take the title for me so until they have a rematch I won&#8217;t consider Forrest as the true champion.  If Dana has any sense then he will give Rampage an immediate rematch because I don&#8217;t feel that Griffin has done enough to warrant being the champion and if he does indeed beat Rampage again then this time there will be no controversy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-414</guid>
		<description>I think a rematch is 100% certain to happen. It WILL happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a rematch is 100% certain to happen. It WILL happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-412</guid>
		<description>Well one way or the other Forrest Griffin is the Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion, albeit controversy or not.

i see a rematch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well one way or the other Forrest Griffin is the Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion, albeit controversy or not.</p>
<p>i see a rematch.</p>
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		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>WWE Monday Night Raw Discussion: Punk v. The World &#171; Pro Wrestling Blog v3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-411</guid>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-410</guid>
		<description>Another interesting thing I've seen is people saying that Forrest's gameplan was better, and thus he deserved to win the rounds he did. To me that makes no sense...what does his gameplan have to do with the technical merits on which the fight is scored. Plus, if his gameplan was so great, why did he stop going after Rampage's knee after round 2? Where was the killer instinct?

Most of the rounds were stand up battles, and thus, should be scored on effectiveness of striking. Plus, did Forrest even get a single takedown in this fight outside of round 2? I don't think so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting thing I&#8217;ve seen is people saying that Forrest&#8217;s gameplan was better, and thus he deserved to win the rounds he did. To me that makes no sense&#8230;what does his gameplan have to do with the technical merits on which the fight is scored. Plus, if his gameplan was so great, why did he stop going after Rampage&#8217;s knee after round 2? Where was the killer instinct?</p>
<p>Most of the rounds were stand up battles, and thus, should be scored on effectiveness of striking. Plus, did Forrest even get a single takedown in this fight outside of round 2? I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-409</guid>
		<description>Monkey,

Not sure what you mean. None of the judges gave Rampage more than two rounds. In my opinion, however, he won at least rounds 1, 3 and 4, and produced at LEAST a draw in round 5. Thus, in my opinion, I think the judge's scorecards for this fight were way off, and Rampage got screwed.

Aaron,

That fifth round is really the sticking point for me. It's SO freakin' close, I don't know how you could score it either way. But the first round going to Griffin on Silbert's scorecard is a complete joke.

Michaleangelo,

Great minds think alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkey,</p>
<p>Not sure what you mean. None of the judges gave Rampage more than two rounds. In my opinion, however, he won at least rounds 1, 3 and 4, and produced at LEAST a draw in round 5. Thus, in my opinion, I think the judge&#8217;s scorecards for this fight were way off, and Rampage got screwed.</p>
<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>That fifth round is really the sticking point for me. It&#8217;s SO freakin&#8217; close, I don&#8217;t know how you could score it either way. But the first round going to Griffin on Silbert&#8217;s scorecard is a complete joke.</p>
<p>Michaleangelo,</p>
<p>Great minds think alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaleangelo</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaleangelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-408</guid>
		<description>That's Exactly the Same way I saw it....Those judges should be Investigated for Corruption</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Exactly the Same way I saw it&#8230;.Those judges should be Investigated for Corruption</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-407</guid>
		<description>I am kind of in inconcurrence with you Lex,

I am really baffled why the judges scored the first round 10-9 for Griffin.

They must have been snoozing right before Rampage almost knocked out forrest with the right uppercut.

the 2nd and even 5th round I gave to Forrest but definitely not the 1st.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am kind of in inconcurrence with you Lex,</p>
<p>I am really baffled why the judges scored the first round 10-9 for Griffin.</p>
<p>They must have been snoozing right before Rampage almost knocked out forrest with the right uppercut.</p>
<p>the 2nd and even 5th round I gave to Forrest but definitely not the 1st.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/06/bad-decisions-mar-ufc-86-rampage-jackson-was-robbed/#comment-406</guid>
		<description>If Rampage won 3 rounds and Griffin won 2 how is Griffin champ ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Rampage won 3 rounds and Griffin won 2 how is Griffin champ ?</p>
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