Comments on: UFC 86 Discussion: Jackson v. Griffin http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/ An MMA Blog: MMA and UFC News, Interviews and Opinion Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:56:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Bad Decisions Mar UFC 86: Rampage Jackson Was Robbed http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-404 Bad Decisions Mar UFC 86: Rampage Jackson Was Robbed Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:53:29 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-404 [...] MMA Shoot An MMA Blog: MMA and UFC News, Interviews and Opinion « UFC 86 Discussion: Jackson v. Griffin [...] […] MMA Shoot An MMA Blog: MMA and UFC News, Interviews and Opinion « UFC 86 Discussion: Jackson v. Griffin […]

]]> By: Lex http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-402 Lex Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:18:22 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-402 I think you could almost argue that Rampage won four of the five rounds, but I'm going to go back and watch it one more time before I make that statement for sure. I think you could almost argue that Rampage won four of the five rounds, but I’m going to go back and watch it one more time before I make that statement for sure.

]]> By: David http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-401 David Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:15:15 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-401 I whimped out of watching the show live (I went to bed after the Griffin v Aurelio fight) and have just finished watching the tape (I went to the rugby before seeing Rampage v Forrest). My picks were pretty good, I called the first 3 fights perfectly. I agree with Lex and Morgan on the judges, they don't seem to know what they're doing at times. Saying that, the two main events were both close fights that were tough to call. I definitely had Almeida winning the first round but the other two were closer and he seemed to run out of energy by the end of the fight. I still don't think Cote is ready to fight Silva after that fight and he needs another win to earn a title shot in my opinion. Like Meltzer I had the Rampage V Forrest fight as a draw (47-47) becuase Rampage seemed to win 3 of the 5 rounds but Forrest did dominate in the second, so I gave him a 10-8 for that round. Forrest's leg kicks were deadly and he dominated on the ground in the second but Rampage rocked him a few times, particularly with that uppercut in the first round. For me, Forrest did not do enough for me to categorically win the fight and the title, I thought Rampage was closer to finishing the fight. Griffin did prove his critics wrong and suprised me by giving Rampage a competetive fight and taking him to a decision, but I'm not convinced that he won it. Overall the show was alright, with an average undercard but a fantastic main event that made the PPV. Hopefully there will be a rematch soon so that Forrest can prove that he deserves to be champion and that it wasn't just because of a questionable call. I whimped out of watching the show live (I went to bed after the Griffin v Aurelio fight) and have just finished watching the tape (I went to the rugby before seeing Rampage v Forrest).

My picks were pretty good, I called the first 3 fights perfectly. I agree with Lex and Morgan on the judges, they don’t seem to know what they’re doing at times. Saying that, the two main events were both close fights that were tough to call.

I definitely had Almeida winning the first round but the other two were closer and he seemed to run out of energy by the end of the fight. I still don’t think Cote is ready to fight Silva after that fight and he needs another win to earn a title shot in my opinion.

Like Meltzer I had the Rampage V Forrest fight as a draw (47-47) becuase Rampage seemed to win 3 of the 5 rounds but Forrest did dominate in the second, so I gave him a 10-8 for that round. Forrest’s leg kicks were deadly and he dominated on the ground in the second but Rampage rocked him a few times, particularly with that uppercut in the first round. For me, Forrest did not do enough for me to categorically win the fight and the title, I thought Rampage was closer to finishing the fight. Griffin did prove his critics wrong and suprised me by giving Rampage a competetive fight and taking him to a decision, but I’m not convinced that he won it.

Overall the show was alright, with an average undercard but a fantastic main event that made the PPV. Hopefully there will be a rematch soon so that Forrest can prove that he deserves to be champion and that it wasn’t just because of a questionable call.

]]> By: Lex http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-400 Lex Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:40:30 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-400 Joe, I agree wholeheartedly on the judges. I'll expand on it later in a post, but I believe they were wrong on the Almeida fight and obviously the main event. Joe,

I agree wholeheartedly on the judges. I’ll expand on it later in a post, but I believe they were wrong on the Almeida fight and obviously the main event.

]]> By: Joe Morgan http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-399 Joe Morgan Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:18:36 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-399 This fight is why MMA judges should be more educated. Rampage Vs Griffin It was an excellent fight. Both men delivered a championship caliber performance. There will be a rematch and it will look totally diffrent. Cote was handed a victory on a silver plater Chris Lytle is tougher than a coffin nail. I still hate Kos (although he is a great fighter) Joe Daddy keeps me as a fan Melvin Gullard is the best "dumb" fighter in the game. He needs to raise his fight Iq and he could be a top twenty fighter. He is a fantastic talent Over all it was worth my 50 dollars This fight is why MMA judges should be more educated.

Rampage Vs Griffin
It was an excellent fight. Both men delivered a championship caliber performance. There will be a rematch and it will look totally diffrent.

Cote was handed a victory on a silver plater

Chris Lytle is tougher than a coffin nail. I still hate Kos (although he is a great fighter)

Joe Daddy keeps me as a fan

Melvin Gullard is the best “dumb” fighter in the game. He needs to raise his fight Iq and he could be a top twenty fighter. He is a fantastic talent

Over all it was worth my 50 dollars

]]> By: Lex http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-397 Lex Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:06:30 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-397 FYI, Dave Meltzer scored it a draw and MMA Junkie had Jackson winning 48-47. FYI, Dave Meltzer scored it a draw and MMA Junkie had Jackson winning 48-47.

]]> By: jd http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-396 jd Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:54:14 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-396 thanx guys i couldnt go see the fight but you guys brought it to me,that was great thanx guys i couldnt go see the fight but you guys brought it to me,that was great

]]> By: Lex http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-395 Lex Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:53:27 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-395 Take it easy, guys! Take it easy, guys!

]]> By: Lex http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-394 Lex Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:53:11 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-394 Bizkit, I should be there for at least part of Raw on Monday over on PWB... Bizkit,

I should be there for at least part of Raw on Monday over on PWB…

]]> By: Aaron http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-393 Aaron Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:52:19 +0000 http://www.mmashoot.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-discussion-jackson-v-griffin/#comment-393 I did Lex, Thoroughly. I did Lex, Thoroughly.

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